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Reply #25 - Oct 26th, 2009 at 4:37pm
 
Germaine had it right, really. "If they cannot rape, they will kill".
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Reply #26 - Nov 18th, 2009 at 2:20am
 

I recognize the value of the sex impulse, but condemn its illegitimate and improper expressions as is prevalent in the world today.

I believe the main cause of the situation is the lack of morality and excessive and inordinate freedom of man.

I believe everything, even good things as freedom and liberty, when going to extremes is harmful for the societies.

The existing excessive liberty of man today must, consequently lead to unsolvable anarchy and chaos. It is good for man to submit to such restraints and laws as will protect him from his ignorance, and guard him against the harm of the wicked.

Regarding how to treat the sexual offenders, I agree with strict punishment with considering humanitarian and less cruel means but I am not agreed on what some societies practice as execution, mutilation and cutting the limbs etc.   

A period of ten years correctional imprisonment or more according to the quality of the offence may be used for their first attempt. If repeated the imprisonment could be twice as before and for the third time may be prescribed for them the imprisonment for life.   

By the way, I agree with the idea of monitoring sex offenders, treating in mental hospitals etc after their releasing from prisons, though the price for maintaining such facilities is unaffordable at the present time. 
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Reply #27 - Nov 19th, 2009 at 11:21am
 
^ Do you mean 'man' as in male sex or human race?


The grapevine is a very powerful means to warn women about other men...... but dangerous too, as many women (myself perhaps) would use it for purpose of revenge.
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Reply #28 - Nov 19th, 2009 at 12:46pm
 

Hello Griselda

Do you mean “man” in my following sentence?
“I believe the main cause of the situation is the lack of morality and excessive and inordinate freedom of man”.
In the above sentence, I referred to the “human race”.
You know that as a Baha’i, I believe in the equality of men and women, so I have no sexual prejudice and do not believe in superiority of one or the other.

Why revenge? Does not God created man and woman in His own image?

“So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them”.  (Genesis, 1:27).

Upon another occasion 'Abdu'l-Bahá said to a group of friends around him: "Taken in general, women today have a stronger sense of religion than men. The woman's intuition is more correct; she is more receptive and her intelligence is quicker. The day is coming when woman will claim her superiority to man”.

"Woman has everywhere been commended for her faithfulness. After the Lord Christ suffered, the disciples wept, and gave way to their grief. They thought that their hopes were shattered, and that the Cause was utterly lost, till Mary Magdalene came to them and strengthened them saying: 'Do you mourn the body of Our Lord or His Spirit? If you mourn His Spirit, you are mistaken, for Jesus lives! His Spirit will never leave us!' Thus through her wisdom and encouragement the Cause of Christ was upheld for all the days to come. Her intuition enabled her to grasp the spiritual fact."

'Abdu'l-Bahá then added: "But in the sight of God sex makes no difference. He or she is greatest who is nearest to God."  (Abdu'l-Baha, Abdu'l-Baha in London, p. 104).
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Reply #29 - Nov 21st, 2009 at 6:34am
 
"Man" is sexist. I am not a man. "Human" is a more inclusive term.




I have no interest in God, knowing God, being close to God, whatever.
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Reply #30 - Nov 22nd, 2009 at 7:39am
 
Hello Griselda

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"Man" is sexist. I am not a man.

You cannot categorize a large number of people into limited special characteristics, qualities or attributes and you cannot “tar everyone with the same brush”.
Women or men could be extremists or moderates in different qualities and characteristics.

From physiological point of view, every human being has the qualities of both sexes.
In woman the male organ does not develop and remains as clitoris, while in man it develops.
So manhood and womanhood is relative; you can not find a real man or a real woman in the world and according to the degrees of development of the male and or the female organs in them, there are to the number of the children of Adam varieties of people. That is why manhood or womanhood is relative and you can not find a real man with all the characteristics of a man or a real woman with all the characteristics of a woman!

So being a feminist or believing in the superiority of men, are both imaginary and prejudice as other kinds of prejudices.
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Reply #31 - Nov 22nd, 2009 at 10:51pm
 
griselda wrote on Nov 21st, 2009 at 6:34am:
"Man" is sexist. I am not a man. "Human" is a more inclusive term.


   I've heard and found through personal experience, that people who accuse others of something do it because they are usually guilty of it, themselves.  Huh
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Reply #32 - Nov 24th, 2009 at 11:31am
 
Feminism is not prejudice....  Huh

"Man" and "woman" are separate. "Humankind" is the only appropriate term - like many other women, I feel excluded from this general "man" category. Rightly so! Same as when they talk of "HE", he as default, "he" as "the reader" or whatever. Occassionally we can use "man" - i.e. when we talk about man's destruction of each other and of the earth.... and I won't be offended in this instance, because that really is down to man alone!


Melik, I don't understand what you are getting at.
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Reply #33 - Nov 24th, 2009 at 10:56pm
 
Grin Between reading your post and Quest's, I thought you were saying that men are sexists and that women are not... sorry about that. But I do believe that feminism is no different than, and just as bigoted as, racism.
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Reply #34 - Nov 25th, 2009 at 10:42am
 
griselda wrote Yesterday at 7:31pm:
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Feminism is not prejudice....
   

And Melik wrote Today at 6:56am:
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But I do believe that feminism is no different than, and just as bigoted as, racism.

I think many words end in “ism” as Antifeminism, Nazism, Absolutism, Agnosticism, Alienism, Absolutism,  Anarchism, Antihumanism, Antiliberalism,, Antirationalism, asceticism, atheism,  authoritarianism, Communism, Anticommunism, deism, egoism, egotism, fascism, gangsterism,  Hermitism, racism, etc, , are prejudices.

Would you consider the definitions of prejudice as follows:

1). Prejudice is a baseless and usually negative attitude toward members of a group. Common features of prejudice include negative feelings, stereotyped beliefs, and a tendency to discriminate against members of the group.

2). any preconceived opinion or feeling, either favorable or unfavorable.

3). unreasonable feelings, opinions, or attitudes, esp. of a hostile nature, regarding a racial, religious, or national group.

4). An opinion or judgment formed without due examination; prejudgment; a leaning toward one side of a question from other considerations than those belonging to it; an unreasonable predilection for, or objection against, anything; especially, an opinion or leaning adverse to anything, without just grounds, or before sufficient knowledge.

5). An adverse judgment or opinion formed beforehand or without knowledge or examination of the facts.

6). The act or state of holding unreasonable preconceived judgments or convictions.

In Arabic and Persian languages prejudice “Ta’assub” which derives from the root, “asab” (nerve) described as “Love or hate something or someone or some group without reason.

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Now judge for yourselves whether Feminism and or Antifeminism are prejudices or not!

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