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Apr 8th, 2009 at 4:00am
 
We're being asked to start thinking about universities and courses etc. ready to start applying in the autum term. I'm really stuck on which direction to go in. I'm studying French, Spanish, Art and Business, I'm not interested at all in carrying Business on at all but I don't know werther to go for the language route or to go for the arty one. I'm pretty much equally good at both paths, predicted B's for AS and A's for A2. I suppose what I'm asking is which do you think will give me the best prospects. I am aware that if I stop using the languages regually then I'll lose them, but I do have an equal passion for Art. Does anyone here have careers related to these subjects, or any words of wisdom from anyone else who was stuck on choosing what to do would be great. The career support at my school isn't fantastic and theres just such a variety of people here.
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Reply #1 - Apr 8th, 2009 at 4:37am
 
If you go the languages route, you would be taking a general arts degree.  It's pretty flexible.  Your first year you would take a variety of courses anyway, then you get a little more specialized when you choose your major.  You can go with languages, or use them to support a major in psychology, sociology, English, French, Spanish, communications......

If you go the art route, the jobs are more competitive, and quite often people don't end up in a career in their chosen field. If you are determined, and good at what you do, go for it.  You can go to a university and study fine arts, or go to a crafts college or community college and study graphic arts, photography, design etc.  Graphic arts is in high demand, and I know a lot of graphic artists who love what they do.
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Reply #2 - Apr 8th, 2009 at 4:24pm
 
Well not necessarily a variety of courses in first year - I have never had the opportunity to do electives. But you could always do Spanish or French, Spanish and French and something else, maybe Linguistics, possibly Art if available... they do tend to be quite flexible for joint honours degrees. Joint honours is a lot more work though, I am told!


The advice they gave me, age 17, was something along the lines of "do the subject you like best..." I did, I suppose, and now regret it. Yes, I agree, the advice is generally dire. Bloody stupid the way they go about it all, trying to plough everybody into university... partly because it looks so good for them, esp if a good university!
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Reply #3 - Apr 9th, 2009 at 2:10am
 
Thanks giggley and griselda, I've just had a look on UCAS and ordered a few prospectus's so I guess it's a start. I can definatly do French and Spanish and other language related degrees combined with History of Art, which sounds really interesting and has occasional practical elements.

But at one place I can do either French or Spanish with Fine Art. So theres a lot of choices to be made.

Unfortunatly I've realised too late that the most common job people go into after these sorts of degrees is teaching, or using a language occasionally in the office, so I'm very confused because it's really not what I wanted from doing two languages.
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Reply #4 - Apr 9th, 2009 at 4:14am
 
If you have an expert rating in your language skills, you can also work as a translator.  These jobs are often well paid, and people are often in demand.
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Reply #5 - Sep 26th, 2009 at 8:51am
 
I don't know if anyone else wrote this, becuase I'm too lazy to read it all. haha

BUT why not integrate them both?!

Do you like people/kids?

Why not being an art teacher in a foriegn country using one (or more) of the languages you are studying!?!

I think that's an awsome idea.  You love them both, so do them both.

I'm going to be an art teacher I think so I've been looking at colleges and universities for things like that, but I'm sure you could find a college that allows you to create your own major, just call around to colleges that look good to you! Cheesy

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Reply #6 - Sep 26th, 2009 at 10:28am
 
sillylily wrote on Sep 26th, 2009 at 8:51am:
but I'm sure you could find a college that allows you to create your own major, just call around to colleges that look good to you! Cheesy

Not necessarily in the UK.  They have a different system.  And there, what you take in high school, and which courses you pass the major exams in, affects what you're allowed to study in university.  It's not like the US, where you have free reign in what to study once you get in.
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Reply #7 - Nov 28th, 2009 at 5:27am
 
Well I've applied now to a modern languages degree, I'll be continuing french and spanish and starting italian from scratch. Language graduates are in demand in all sectors so I feel like I've made a good choice.

Yes in England you study between 3 and 5 A-Levels when you're 17/18, you then go to uni and specialise even further, but you can create your own degrees, like psycology and french for example and graduate in both subjects. It sounds rather complex that you study everything in college in America, surely you don't get very specialised in your subject?
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Reply #8 - Nov 28th, 2009 at 6:03am
 
Usually the first year of an Arts degree is pretty well rounded with a little bit of everything, by second year you narrow it down a little more, and get much more specialized in your 3rd and 4th years.  Same with Science degrees.  First year you take a bit of Chem, Physics, Bio, Geology, Math and a few electives.  2nd year you decide what Science you want to specialize in, take a variety within that field, then specialize more so in 3rd and 4th years.
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Reply #9 - Nov 28th, 2009 at 8:05am
 
It depends on the school, of course, but you really don't have to take that much outside of your chosen major- just a few liberal arts and language courses.  I really welcomed any non-science classes for a change, because the science just consumes you.

By the end, you're pretty darn specialized, depending on how you scheduled things.  I wasn't applying for a Biology program, so I took a little bit of everything in the Bio department.  My friend who was applying for a PhD in biochem made sure to specialize in those kinds of classes.  A friend who is getting her PhD in Marine sciences did the same.

They give you a fair bit of freedom, really.  College here is what you make of it.
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Reply #10 - Nov 29th, 2009 at 5:03am
 
Hmm I take it back then, it sounds fairly interesting, a bit like the bac's in France, either a sciencey one or an arts one and you seem to get a lot of flexability. I must say it was hard to go from 12 subjects at GCSE to just 4 at A-Level, especially since I enjoyed most subjects.
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Reply #11 - Nov 29th, 2009 at 8:19am
 
If it's anything like our colleges, 4 classes can be pretty damn difficult.  I actually only took 3 classes for a couple of semesters (I was struggling a bit and had to drop a class after the add period ended).

I actually miss college in some ways.  I'm taking 5 classes now, but in grad school, they decide my schedule for me.  I don't get electives until my final semester, and I only have  a choice of 3 different ones.  I miss being able to randomly take a history or religion class just because it sounds interesting.
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Reply #12 - Nov 30th, 2009 at 4:29am
 
Sarah: wrote on Nov 28th, 2009 at 5:27am:
Well I've applied now to a modern languages degree, I'll be continuing french and spanish and starting italian from scratch. Language graduates are in demand in all sectors so I feel like I've made a good choice.

Yes in England you study between 3 and 5 A-Levels when you're 17/18, you then go to uni and specialise even further, but you can create your own degrees, like psycology and french for example and graduate in both subjects. It sounds rather complex that you study everything in college in America, surely you don't get very specialised in your subject?


Yes, yes, so broad isn't it! I envy them... I just did straight History, though my dissertation strayed into Art History territory Smiley I wish I had had more freedom to try out other things, archaeology, English lit....... and I wish I had done something more vocational, some kind of conservation degree maybe... Oh so many regrets, I am always regretting. And I did well. And I still regret.
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Reply #13 - Nov 30th, 2009 at 9:29am
 
My head of year person was talking to me about doing 5 a levels and I was thinking about it but I'm ridiculously unhardworking and it'll be safer just to take 4. I want to take german, french, history and either english lit or maths.
Some sixth forms offer the IB (international bac) but i don't know of any that do where I live. My cousins and friends did really well at their bacs, so my parents are starting to say stuff like, "so, we're really going to try very hard next year, aren't we?".

Can you really start italian at uni from scratch! That must be amazing! I'd love that =D My uncle and aunt live in Italy and their daughter is growing up with both French and Italian, just imagine  Cheesy She's so cute, she says "si" all the time instead of "oui". Haha. Although I suppose Spanish would be easier. My mum's fluent in Spanish so she could help me. x]
I am really really looking forward to dropping english language, PE, sciences...although i know i'll instantly forget everything to do with them.
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Reply #14 - Nov 30th, 2009 at 10:07am
 
^ Yes if you've already done a language at A-Level you can pick up another from scratch.
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Reply #15 - Nov 30th, 2009 at 1:50pm
 
Most people at my sixth form did 4 AS and 3 A Levels. I remember them saying "Oh hahaha you can do four but you'd have no life!"

I did History, Geog, English Lang/Lit and Psychology, and a "Citizenship" AS Level...... that was a lot of work together, so 5 full "proper" A Levels does seem a lot (especially the ones you have chosen, Elise!). But, the beauty of modules is that by my final exams I was so confident in getting straight As (for Geog, say needed 30/110) that I hardly had to revise for some. So you can space it out (working consistently hard, esp in first year) and it won't be too hard.

Italian is a beautiful language.... but I am crap at languages. I didn't go to Warwick because it would mean learning languages (Italian specifically, I seem to remember)
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Reply #16 - Nov 30th, 2009 at 1:51pm
 
PS English lit sounds much more interesting than Maths.  Wink
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Reply #17 - Nov 30th, 2009 at 2:47pm
 
I loved studying Italian when I was in High School.  It's one of my bigger regrets that I had to drop it when I got to college and I've all but lost it at this point in time...

You're very fortunate to be able to study so many different languages.
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Reply #18 - Dec 1st, 2009 at 8:51am
 
^ it really depends on what your secondary school does. my school only does french and german, but my friend's school does about seven different languages because they are a "language college" x] apparently if you are really good at them you get invited to take extras.

The thing with psychology is that everyone wants to do it. Even the 'get your Ds and you've done great' people. It says something if it's that popular. I did used to want to do it but I'd rather take history.
I'm not taking 5 a levels. My head of year was going on and on but I've talked it over with me friend and she looked at me like i was insane.
I always make up my mind to revise lots and work really hard, but half of that time I just sit and colour in the paper. The other half I am taking breaks. Doesn't leave a lot of time for spider diagrams.
Don't even really want to go to college but I like looking through the prospectuses because they're all so proud and cheerful and colourful.
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Reply #19 - Dec 1st, 2009 at 11:19am
 
Mmmmmm. I did not like Psychology at all (can't remember examination board. Edexcel?!) It was not what I thought it would be.

Yes! Do History! What kind would you do? I did Tudor. Most people at my sixth form did Modern.

PS are you at Oaklands atm? I was doing sculpture there...
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Reply #20 - Dec 1st, 2009 at 11:51am
 
Oaklands! You mean York High! Lowfields and Oaklands merged...that was a popular move x]
And god no, I wouldn't go to York High! Nobody would except for tang hall people! Or do you mean the sports centre...sculpture?
I go to Manor (:

And I'd like to do 20th century- that's modern isn't it? Lots of people want to take History and Maths, because it's a maths sixth form. About six people did German! All Saints will have loads of people doing languages. Although everyone at my school is moaning about it and saying they want to drop it...the thing is, they told us we wouldn't get into uni without a language, but most people drop it at a level anyway. It's just for the school's stats really- loads of people were pressurised into doing languages when they can't do them.
We did the tudors/ victorians to death in primary/ lower school! Was it good?
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Reply #21 - Dec 2nd, 2009 at 9:55am
 
^ Languages look great on your personal statement, and you're more employable after graduation with a langauge, of course I've just taken it to an extreme Cheesy

We're a language college but tbh we're gonna loose that title because for GCSE the school is just focusing on French rather than French, German and Spanish like they did in my time (aka 2 years ago). They used to have loads of options for Chinese, Italian etc. but they stopped doing it before I had the chance to take part. Really annoying, it's all about league tables and teaching to the exam nowadays rather than learning the actual subject -___- /rant.

I think for the current history A-Level you do a lot about Russia, the revolution, post soviet russia etc and I believe also the american indians? I don't know if that changes from school to school but I've always found Russia so interesting!
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Reply #22 - Dec 2nd, 2009 at 10:07am
 
York High School........ up in Acomb.  Huh Why would Tang Hall people go there?


And where is Manor? Also Acomb?
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Reply #23 - Dec 2nd, 2009 at 10:09am
 
Aha. I see. A CoE school. How heavy is it?!





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Reply #24 - Dec 2nd, 2009 at 10:15am
 
Because York High can't get anyone else but Tang Hall people to go there. Everyone else will travel for an hour to go to the other schools because they know they'll get into them.

Manor's up in Poppleton, just. Because it moved this year. Used to be just in Acomb.
We have Eucharists and get told off if we say "oh my god" and our blazers say "deo duce" and stuff. You have to get letters from your church to get in. We have the lord's prayer in every room.
They're much more strict in lower school but as you go up they give up.
Probably better than All Saints- you have to be Catholic to get in! I wanted to go there actually.
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