Vampire_Rose wrote today at 7:31 am: 
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When we catch cold, we cannot feel odors. In this case, the odor of musk scented flower is the same as a fetid smell of a putrefied carcass. Those who do not feel love have not received it at childhood or are spiritually sick.

It has demonstrated scientifically that those who had not parents especially mother and consequently have not received enough love; do not know it and cannot offer it.
The majority of criminals are those who had not received love at childhood.    

Hello Vampire_Rose

By your confession in your slogan, you have proved logically that you are sick:

Your minor premise: “LOVE IS A SICKNESS”,
Your major premise: “I Love PT!”
            Conclusion: “You are sick!”  

I am sure my intention was not to offend you or any other dear friends in my previous post or here but to mention generally the reason why the people have not love, show love and do not love the people. I am sure that you are not a because your posts have the savor of a musk-scented .
You can find better your case that why you stick to “LOVE IS A SICKNESS”?
Love is such an important reality as God Himself (1), the means to know God (1),  “the cause and purpose of the creation of the world” (2), “the cause of the existence of the world” (3), The objective of God for sending His Manifestations (4), and a lot more that you can find some in my previous post in this thread.    God bless you
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1). “He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love”. (1 John, 4:8).  
2). There is a well-known Tradition concerning God and His creation: “I was a Hidden Treasure. I wished to be made known, and thus I called creation into being in order that I might be known”. And also: “O SON OF MAN! I loved thy creation, hence I created thee. Wherefore, do thou love Me, that I may name thy name and fill thy soul with the spirit of life”.  (Baha'u'llah, The Hidden Words).
3). In the material world, all things gather together by the “law of attraction” which is as the law of “love” in the spiritual world. All objects in the world of existence composed of elements held together by the law of attraction. If this law should cease for one moment to operate these elements would not hold together, they would fall apart, and the object would in that particular form cease to exist.
4). “The advent of the prophets and the revelation of the Holy Books is intended to create love between souls and friendship between the inhabitants of the earth. Real love is impossible unless one turn his face towards God and be attracted to His Beauty”. (Abdu'l-Baha, Baha'i World Faith - Abdu'l-Baha Section, p. 363).

Quest wrote on Sep 5^th, 2009 at 4:32am:



Actually, I didn't even notice the 'I love PT' slogan - and I can't change it as I can't log out and in again because of changing my email and losing my password etc...so I may have to register again in yet another name.

Quest, I do respect your opinion BUT religion played a very large role in making me as hmmmm, disturbed, as I am. I was brought up Baptist.

Personally, I do not like to feel attachment to anything - either a person or a thing or a place. People cannot be trusted.....I wish I could rid myself of all feelings. But that is hard - it h as taken me many years to get as unfeeling as I am - and it is what I chose, from childhood.

griselda wrote yesterday at 7:49 pm:
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That’s quote right concerning the sensational and sensual love which is described by Germaine Greer in his book, The Female Eunuch.
But the real love is the spiritual one which is directed to God and whatever has issued from Him including mankind.

Rumi, the greatest mystics of Persia in one of his poems says:

The love songs which issues from a colored reed-flute,  
Is not love but finally it will be a discredit and shame!

And in another poem he says:
 
The love of the soul is for life and the LIVING ONE,
Because its origin is the Soul not bound to place.
The love of the soul is for wisdom and knowledge,
That of the body for houses, gardens, and vineyards;
The love of the soul is for things exalted on high,
That of the body for acquisition of goods and food.
The love too of HIM ON HIGH is directed to the soul:
Know this for 'He loves them that love Him.'"
The sum is this, that whoso seeks another,
The soul of that other who is sought inclines to him.
(Mathnavi of Rumi (E.H. Whinfield tr), The Masnavi Vol 3).

Sheik Yerbouti wrote on Sep 6^th, 2009 at 12:49am:


  Basically it is a sickness if it is false love, which seems to try and dominate the world. It is the love where you only love when there's something in it for you, using others for your own selfish purposes. This is probably what turns people into criminals, or a "serial killer" as Rose alluded to.

  True love would be the love where one loves despite whether there's anything in it for them or not. It's the kind of love that makes everyone (or everything) involved feel fulfilled by it. It's a sacrificial love where a friend lays down his life for another friend.


"True love is the kind of love that makes you and another feel good even if you stay together forever. It is the kind of love that makes you feel good, even though you just stay together, live together, watch together, talk together, feel things together and listen together."
                                            Sun Myung Moon

maybe,maybe not. maybe some people are bitter or "don't believe in love"they think human kind is to cruel and is undeserving.they fail to see the beauty in this world and i think they should look deeper.this isn't directed at anyone btw..just my personal thoughts.

if you so easily see the bad/negative concepts,people,ideas,etc. in this world thats because you have made it a habit. instead of always seeing the bad,why don't you take a step back look at the world at a differ perspective, look at the good and beauty of the world. Look at the trees, the moon, the flowers, the bright green grass,deep blue oceans, the adorable animals,etc. why don't you try as hard to see the good as you do the bad???

Meik I think you have very interesting insights, but I hope you are wrong about "false love,that uses others for selfish purposes that contribute turning someone into a killer or criminal." Because I know a lot of people who seem to be like that.my boyfrans so called friend has been described like that..he's hilarious,but most of the time he presents himself in this angry look. my step mom is also very much like that..so if i'm missing something or getting something wrong, let me know and clarify please.

i think any1 who has no mercy for others has something mentally wrong with them.
i think maybe it is possible to love everyone but everyone has different backgrounds/upbringings.some people think its not possible to love everyone so they don't even try,they don't have enough confidence or faith to believe they could possibly love  everyone.however people should at least try to be positive and notice not everyone is full of evil. maybe we all sin or do bad things,but  people have good characters too,displaying kindness and other good things.: )

yes we can, as soon as we realize we are really one, we can love every living person.

Celine wrote Yesterday at 3:57pm
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"For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them.

And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye? for sinners also do even the same.

And if ye lend to them of whom ye hope to receive, what thank have ye? for sinners also lend to sinners, to receive as much again.

But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.

Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful".  (Luke, 6:32-35).

I don't hurt people i hate but i cannot and i am sure no one can help hating them. We cannot control our feelings, if we hate some one, it is just because we cannot love them. There are some people whom we can love if we just try, but with some other people we cannot even if we try to.

Celine wrote on Nov 7th, 2009 at 10:07am:
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When we the unbearable people, , because we ; but when we try to hide away their negative attributes and make an effort to them, .
 
I believe in this age that humanity afflicted with , the best prescription is the : 
 
"The best remedy for hate is love, as hate is the absence of love! In this respect you must show forth the love of God to others, Baha'is and non-baha'is alike, and thus do your part to dispel the darkness in this world. This is what the beloved Master (‘Abdu’l-Baha) expects of His servant”. (From a letter written on behalf of Shoghi Effendi to an individual believer, October 12, 1949)  (Compilations, Lights of Guidance, p. 403). 
 
Each time has its exigency; at the time of Moses there was the established principle of “an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth”. Jesus changed it to “'Love your enemies, do good to them that hate you”. In this time when humanity afflicted with dissension, enmity and hatred, the Baha’i Faith renewed this teaching of Jesus with emphasis; Baha’u’llah says: “O son of man! If thine eyes be turned towards , forsake the things that profit thee, and cleave unto that which will profit mankind. And if thine eyes be turned towards , choose thou for thy neighbor that which thou choosest for thyself.  (Baha'u'llah, Epistle to the Son of the Wolf, p. 29).    To be continued

   I was listening to Rev Moon's daughter giving a sermon and she was relating when she had once asked her 4 year old if he knew what love is and after thinking for a moment, he told her, "Love is what moves the heart." And she was surprised by his answer and further asked, "What do you mean..." and he replied, "Well, I love you and I want to be near you, and hug you and kiss you all the time..."

   I thought that was a pretty profound answer, especially for a little boy, but I could understand and relate to what is a totally natural impulse we are born with as children which would be great if everyone could retain and develop as we grow older, to express to the world around us.

The family sets the pattern for living together in harmony. The family wherein parents and
children love and respect each other, husband and wife are grounded in mutual trust and love,
and brothers and sisters trust and rely on each other, and all live together as one, is the model
ideal family. This means that you need to establish a true family wherein the stem of true love
emerges from the root of true love and bears the fruit of true love.
                           Sun Myung Moon

 
   I imagine that if the world were made up of such true families then it wouldn't be to difficult loving others to the extent of every living person.

If love and agreement are manifest in a single family, that family will advance, become illumined and spiritual; but if enmity and hatred exist within it, destruction and dispersion are inevitable. This is likewise true of a city. If those who dwell within it manifest a spirit of accord and fellowship, it will progress steadily and human conditions become brighter, whereas through enmity and strife it will be degraded and its inhabitants scattered. In the same way the people of a nation develop and advance toward civilization and enlightenment through love and accord, and are disintegrated by war and strife. Finally, this is true of humanity itself in the aggregate. When love is realized and the ideal spiritual bonds unite the hearts of men, the whole human race will be uplifted, the world will continually grow more spiritual and radiant, and the happiness and tranquillity of mankind be immeasurably increased. Warfare and strife will be uprooted, disagreement and dissension pass away, and Universal Peace unite the nations and peoples of the world. All mankind will dwell together as one family, blend as the waves of one sea, shine as stars of one firmament, and appear as fruits of the same tree. This is the happiness and felicity of humankind. This is the illumination of man, the glory eternal and life everlasting; this is the divine bestowal.

        'Abdu'l-Baha, The Promulgation of Universal Peace



I exist for my family, my family exists for our society, our society exists for our nation, our nation exists for the world, all the world exists for God, and God exists for you and me, for all mankind. In this great circle of give and take there is harmony, there is unity, and there is an eternal process of increasing prosperity. Furthermore, since in this circuit all existence will fulfill its purpose of creation, there is abundant and profound joy. This is the Kingdom of Heaven, in which feelings of happiness overflow.

                Sun Myung Moon