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Another question about slavery.
Mar 31st, 2008 at 4:50pm
 
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"Could a slave owner not love a slave? Could a slave not love a slave owner?"

I think this caused the moral issue with slavery, not religion.  It is human nature, no one can get around it.  Unless someone is seriously insane.  Very few are like that.
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Re: Another question about slavery.
Reply #1 - Apr 1st, 2008 at 7:25am
 
DesiDani wrote on Mar 31st, 2008 at 4:50pm:
Yes I am on a role.

"Could a slave owner not love a slave? Could a slave not love a slave owner?"

I think this caused the moral issue with slavery, not religion.  It is human nature, no one can get around it.  Unless someone is seriously insane.  Very few are like that.


Sorry - but I don't understand the question.
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Reply #2 - Apr 1st, 2008 at 10:31am
 
It could exist, but not truely. Perhaps on the surface, but not deep down, because being imprisoned is something unforgivable [what right do we have to imprison our fellow human beings??]...however, if a slave does forgive, then anything is possible  Smiley
That made no sense whatsoever!  Grin
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Re: Another question about slavery.
Reply #3 - Apr 2nd, 2008 at 3:52am
 
Depends on what the owner's like.

If Angelina Jolie was my owner, I'd love her to death.
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Reply #4 - Apr 2nd, 2008 at 4:23am
 
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Re: Another question about slavery.
Reply #5 - Apr 3rd, 2008 at 1:11am
 
It's "roll" not "role."
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Re: Another question about slavery.
Reply #6 - Apr 3rd, 2008 at 9:37am
 
^ does that really matter  Undecided
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Reply #7 - Apr 3rd, 2008 at 11:50am
 
I just think that people don't think that it is possible, because owning a slave in some way is inhumane.  Yet like I said before slavery was excepted in the past.  Too many think of 1700s to 1800 when they think of slavery.  A slaveowner is human, just the same a slave is human.  Perhaps the slaveowner had to think of their slaves as inhuman in order to keep them enslaved.  I also think that slaveowners punished their slaves to not only to deminish the humanity in the slaves, but to futher their opinion that the slave isn't worthy of humanity. I also think that some slaveowners kept their slaves for life and didn't sell them because that they felt love for them.  Although they would never admit to it.
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Re: Another question about slavery.
Reply #8 - Apr 4th, 2008 at 3:25am
 

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I think this caused the moral issue with slavery, not religion. It is human nature, no one can get around it.

Hello DesiDani

It is absolutely right, Slavery is contrary to the will of God and religious teachings have always been opposed this unjust behaviour of man and tried to reduce its pressure and enact laws against mistreating the slaves, but as divine laws are progressive and follow the law of graduation, the religions of old didn’t suddenly stop it.

This is also a truth that human nature is egoistical but as discussed in my previous posts, I believe that the source of morality is religion and it is just through the power of religion that can adjust and regulate the human temper and correct its deviations. Slavery is one of these deviations from good conduct which has practiced from the beginning of the human history. Though in this age slavery has abolished, yet other different forms of it has crept into the modern societies.

You have asked in your previous thread whether the cause of abolishment of slavery were political or economical factors. That's right too but I think the main reason is evolutional, because humanity to its collective is coming of age.

Today both religious and civic laws condemn slavery. The religious law which abolishes slavery is in the Kitab-i-Aqdas (The most Holy Book) of the Baha’i Faith and the civic laws was first announced in Upper Canada in 1793, in Britain in 1833, in USA in 1865 and then was attached to the Declaration of the Human Rights by UN.

Through the laws and administrative order, the Baha’i Faith promises the loosening of the shackles which have held mankind in the political, ecclesiastical and financial slavery of the times.
In the Book of Aqdas Bahá'u'lláh forbids slavery, and Abdu'l-Bahá has explained that not only chattel slavery, but also industrial slavery is contrary to the law of God. When in the United States in 1912, He said to the American people:  --

Between 1860 and 1865 you did a wonderful thing; you abolished chattel slavery; but today you must do a much more wonderful thing: you must abolish industrial slavery. ...        God bless you
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Re: Another question about slavery.
Reply #9 - Apr 5th, 2008 at 9:52pm
 
I am sure that one slaveowner was probably critical of how another slave owner treated their slaves.  Perhaps they even fought over it.  That is sort of egotistical for humans. 

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Re: Another question about slavery.
Reply #10 - Apr 9th, 2008 at 7:52am
 
Look at Thomas Jefferson. He apparently may have had children with one of his slaves.
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Re: Another question about slavery.
Reply #11 - Apr 10th, 2008 at 3:52pm
 
DesiDani wrote on Mar 31st, 2008 at 4:50pm:
"Could a slave owner not love a slave? Could a slave not love a slave owner?"

Absolutely.  And that makes the picture very complicated.

Many slave owners did love their slaves... perhaps in about the same way they'd love a favorite horse.  Perhaps in an even more human and personal way than that.  Some slaves loved their owners, especially if the owners treated them very kindly.  But the fact remains, a master/slave relationship does mean an imbalance of power, in a way that other relationships don't.
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Re: Another question about slavery.
Reply #12 - Jun 19th, 2010 at 7:47pm
 
But the fact remains, a master/slave relationship does mean an imbalance of power, in a way that other relationships don't.
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And yet, husbands and wives often have an imbalance of power..even in this era.
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