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Apr 23rd, 2006 at 3:12am
 
Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environment

Dear Group Members,

I want to share my article with you. This is about the link between Mind and Social / Environmental-Issues. The fast-paced, consumerist lifestyle of Industrial Society is causing exponential rise in psychological problems besides destroying the environment. All issues are interlinked. Our Minds cannot be peaceful when attention-spans are down to nanoseconds, microseconds and milliseconds. Our Minds cannot be peaceful if we destroy Nature.


Please note : The article has been written in short sentences rather than paragraph-form because it is about subjective experience / emotion/ reduction of thought.

Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environment.

Subject : In a fast society slow emotions become extinct.
Subject : A thinking mind cannot feel.
Subject : Scientific/ Industrial/ Financial thinking destroys the planet.
Subject : Environment can never be saved as long as cities exist.


Emotion is what we experience during gaps in our thinking.

If there are no gaps there is no emotion.

Today people are thinking all the time and are mistaking thought (words/ language) for emotion.


When society switches-over from physical work (agriculture) to mental work (scientific/ industrial/ financial/ fast visuals/ fast words ) the speed of thinking keeps on accelerating and the gaps between thinking go on decreasing.

There comes a time when there are almost no gaps.

People become incapable of experiencing/ tolerating gaps.

Emotion ends.

Man becomes machine.



A society that speeds up mentally experiences every mental slowing-down as Depression / Anxiety.

A ( travelling )society that speeds up physically experiences every physical slowing-down as Depression / Anxiety.

A society that entertains itself daily experiences every non-entertaining moment as Depression / Anxiety.



FAST VISUALS /WORDS MAKE SLOW EMOTIONS EXTINCT.

SCIENTIFIC /INDUSTRIAL /FINANCIAL THINKING DESTROYS EMOTIONAL CIRCUITS.

A FAST (LARGE) SOCIETY CANNOT FEEL PAIN / REMORSE / EMPATHY.

A FAST (LARGE) SOCIETY WILL ALWAYS BE CRUEL TO ANIMALS/ TREES/ AIR/ WATER/ LAND AND TO ITSELF.


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Reply #1 - Apr 23rd, 2006 at 11:48am
 
I notice in industrial soceities people are more individualistic and less collectivistic, have  less respect for elders, families are not as close knit as in pooer countries and people become more materialistic. People suffer from depression more in industrial soceities because the emotional support is not as strong or present as in collectivistic soceities. The reason is people in pooer countries have less resources and thus people need to rely on others for support: emotional and fiscal. It's difficult to be materialistic when you don't have much disposable income as is the case in poor countries, your main priority is survivial or meeting the necessities.

In India, where they are industralizing this trend is rearing it's ugly head. People are losing respect for elders, becoming materialistic etc. Of course, the positive aspect is people now have more disposable income and there is a burgeoning middle class.
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My country is the world, and my religion is to do good. Thomas Paine&&&&When women are depressed, they either eat or go shopping. Men invade another country. It's a whole different way of thinking. Elaine Boosler &&&&The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing. Albert Einstein &&&&Poverty is the worst form of violence. Gandhi&&
 
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Reply #2 - May 30th, 2006 at 6:43pm
 
'To materialist eyes, India is a developing country; to spiritual eyes, the United States is a developing country.'
~Some guy Ram Dass.

I agree.
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Reply #3 - May 31st, 2006 at 1:48am
 
people forget what life was like before the industrial revolution.

there was no such thing as a social safety net.

or what about all of the medical advances weve made.

people dont appreciate what industry has given us.


(however industry has ruined the environment, but it doesnthave to)
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Reply #4 - May 31st, 2006 at 10:23pm
 
Industry is not inherently evil, in fact it is desirable. What is missing is the balance a society must maintain, one between physical comfort and spiritual growth.
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Reply #5 - Jun 18th, 2007 at 10:31pm
 
Man can repair and restore things that have been made by man himself. Car, Computer, Aeroplane, Rocket - if anything goes wrong with these things man can repair and restore.

Man cannot repair and restore Nature/ Environment - because man did not make Nature/ Environment. Once a Forest is destroyed - it is gone for millions of years. One cannot create a Forest in 5 or 50 years - it takes millions of years to make a forest - containing millions of species of animals, insects, birds, plants and trees. Man can create a plantation in 5 or 50 years - not a forest.

The only way to save Environment is by not destroying it - leave it alone - leave it undisturbed. If you destroy Environment you cannot repair and restore it.

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Reply #6 - Jun 21st, 2007 at 3:37pm
 
Wow, these Luddite people keep posting this same thing all over the Internet on every discussion board it seems.  It's already been on PT several times, too. 

In my opinion technology is not bad though I agree we spend far too little effort on the development of our emotional selves.  However, I think technology is beginning to help with our development as a species. 

Look at PT - just look around.  How many friendships have you formed either here or on other boards or sites?  As we come to see people worldwide as friends and real people I believe we will begin to become more civilized towards each other.  If we don't have this wonderful form of communication how will we avoid being little insular tribal clusters who don't even begin to know our Brothers and Sisters around the world?  I know full well we aren't "there" yet.  We are generations away from becoming a truly global community but I can see it.  I hope I live to see people refuse to fight childhood friends and use the power of shared knowledge to dash corrupt governments, crush hunger and poverty, fight suffering of all kinds, and learn to love the giant family of earth.   

I see people forming beautiful friendships with other people across the globe via the Internet and it chokes me with emotion - real emotion.  It's a way to share our love openly and unabashedly as we can not yet all do in our respective physical communities. 

We can share our spiritual and emotional selves though this technology in ways before unknown.  I have a condition on the Autistic Spectrum known as Asperger's Syndrome.  In person, I would not be able to share the things I share here as I have difficulties expressing myself.  People at very disabling levels on the Autism Spectrum have an even bigger investment in the Internet.  People who were once thought to be extremely mentally retarded as well as Autistic have written books and used technology to communicate with their families!  

People right here are sharing their emotions and spiritual selves through this bulletin Board which would not exist without technology.

Besides - what's with the Internet usage if technology is bad?  Seems a bit hypocritical using the Internet to spread an anti-technology message.  Hmmmm, you might say it's the best way to spread information, to educate others, to share knowledge..........um......well, lookie there!
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Reply #7 - Jun 21st, 2007 at 5:42pm
 
^ I remember you calling me a neo-luddite when I was ranting about technology, years ago! You also called me a hypocrite.

We are allowed to isolate out the Good Technologies. It doesn't make us hypocrites... I don't completely shun technology- after all, I do have electricity, and it isn't coming from a solar panel on my roof... but this man is absolutely right! All this technology is not good for our souls. It is inherently EVIL. One day, when we have the revolution and destroy all Evil, we shall see the end of all this gloom, return to our spinning Jenny's (does not count) and darn socks with our hands!, and ride bicycles EVERYWHERE (for the bicycle does not count). We shall use typewriters (for the typewriter does not count) and write letters. None of the romantic (or critical) technologies will count. No cars! No aeroplanes! No internet! And a complete memory block... and then we will all forget... it will be a Perfect World.

The Internet is not the enemy though. It can be a very beautiful thing, as you rightly say. The internet is like a free floater though... high above the skies... so not so much destruction on that note... only teenage boys getting addicted, etc.
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Reply #8 - Jun 22nd, 2007 at 5:05pm
 
My response is likely similar because this is the very same post cut and pasted that we were responding to then.  I've seen it with this exact wording on no less than four bulletin boards.  Keep in mind I only visit a small cross section of the available bulletin boards so this cut and paste must be pretty prevalant.

If we return to the pre-technological society and embrace an agrarian society we would basically just doing what the Amish are doing.  It seems we'd have more dependance on animals for transport and food - something we could stand to limit as it is.  No abortions, no safe childbirth - not a modern feminist's paradise.  We'd see women turned into baby making machines to produce more field workers to replace those that die from disease and injury. 

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Reply #9 - Jun 23rd, 2007 at 2:28am
 
Viva le eternal opptimist!

Rarely see you on the boards Kylyssa.  This thread just made me miss you, and Tryke and HelluvaQ.
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Reply #10 - Aug 30th, 2007 at 1:36pm
 
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Wow, these Luddite people keep posting this same thing all over the Internet on every discussion board it seems.  It's already been on PT several times, too.  

In my opinion technology is not bad
Besides - what's with the Internet usage if technology is bad?  Seems a bit hypocritical using the Internet to spread an anti-technology message.


I have not gone around posting at random. I have always posted in Forums that are relevant to my article/ related to keywords in my article.

Industrial Society has destroyed all ecosystems.

America has 5% of world population and is consuming 40% of world resources.

The Great American Dream is a Nightmare for the planet.

I find it ironic that you have no concern/ compassion for Environment despite the fact that you owe your very existence to nature/ environment.

Why do you breathe the Air?
Why do you drink the Water?
Why do you eat the Food that comes from Soil? - Why don't you have Computers for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

Take all your technology to the Moon - and try producing a single grain of Food without using any natural ingredient from Earth.


In the absence of Nature your grandfather would'nt have lived.
In the absence of Nature your father would'nt have lived.
In the absence of Nature you would'nt have lived.

Show some respect to Nature.

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Reply #11 - Aug 31st, 2007 at 3:06pm
 
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Industry is not inherently evil, in fact it is desirable. What is missing is the balance a society must maintain, one between physical comfort and spiritual growth.


I think it is evil. They really dont care about anything except the bottom line....Anyone been to Detroit lately?
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Reply #12 - Sep 9th, 2007 at 1:11am
 
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I have not gone around posting at random. I have always posted in Forums that are relevant to my article/ related to keywords in my article.

Industrial Society has destroyed all ecosystems.

America has 5% of world population and is consuming 40% of world resources.

The Great American Dream is a Nightmare for the planet.

I find it ironic that you have no concern/ compassion for Environment despite the fact that you owe your very existence to nature/ environment.

Why do you breathe the Air?
Why do you drink the Water?
Why do you eat the Food that comes from Soil? - Why don't you have Computers for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

Take all your technology to the Moon - and try producing a single grain of Food without using any natural ingredient from Earth.


In the absence of Nature your grandfather would'nt have lived.
In the absence of Nature your father would'nt have lived.
In the absence of Nature you would'nt have lived.

Show some respect to Nature.

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LOL

I deeply respect nature.  My cultural identity as a Native American depends greatly upon respect for nature. 

Don't you know - we are animals?  Human beings are a part of nature, too.  Anything we puny creatures do can come back and bite us in the ass.  We can ruin earth for our purposes but we can't really ruin earth.  We might make it uncomfortable or possibly even unlivable for ourselves but nature and life itself are forces beyond our sphere of influence to lesser or greater degree.  We'd have to really, really try to destroy nature, to destroy earth.  Your thought that we are even important in the lifetime of earth herself is sheer arrogance.  We are an irritating eyelash in the eye of a world.  What good does it do us to live out the remainder of our lifetime as a species with short, painful individual lives just so whatever lifeforms that inhabit earth after us won't be annoyed by a few ruins?  Nature will easily outlive humanity.


We are learning as a species.  Once countries become more educated, yes, they begin consuming more but they also begin to reproduce less.  Eventually a balance will be struck.  The answer isn't going back to living in caves, the answer is to find balance.  The answer is to educate and use our knowledge and technology to preserve and protect our world, not to discard technology entirely. 

When you demonize technology you begin to demonize all knowledge.  Without technology the world becomes compartmentalized, cut into many, many groups of "us" and "them."  We are headed towards a smaller world and world citizenship through technology.  Our children are forming friendships with others across the globe.  We are becoming family with people in distant lands, seeing them as humans, as members of our family on vastly expanded scale for the first time in history.   

Also, you replied without answering my question - why, if you find technology to be the root of all evil, do you use it? 

Why not write more articles rather than putting the same one up over and over?  Also, people would probably understand you better if you conversed and debated rather than cutting and pasting.
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Reply #13 - Sep 14th, 2007 at 1:24pm
 
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The answer isn't going back to living in caves 


Also, you replied without answering my question - why, if you find technology to be the root of all evil, do you use it?  




Who is asking people to go back to living in caves?
Read the article carefully before posting silly comments.

Yes, I am using the computer. But I am using very few other consumer goods.

How many consumer goods and services are you using?

Would you like to compare your ecological footprint with mine?

Let us find out who is a bigger burden on earth.



Industrial Society is destroying necessary things [Animals, Trees, Air, Water and Land] for making unnecessary things [Consumer Goods].

When we make consumer goods we kill Animals/ Trees, Air/ Water and Land - directly or indirectly.

Industrial Society destroys ecosystems - all Industrial Societies destroy ecosystems.

It hardly matters whether it is "Capitalist Industrial Society" - "Communist Industrial Society" - or "Socialist Industrial Society".

Industrial Society destroys ecosystems at every stage of its functioning - when consumer goods are produced - when consumer goods are used - when consumer goods are discarded/ recycled.

Raw material for industry is obtained by cutting up Forests. It is extracted by mining/ digging up the earth. It comes by destroying/ killing Trees, Animals and Land.

Industries/ Factories use Water. The water that comes out of Factories is contaminated with hundreds of toxic chemicals. Industry kills Water. What to speak of Rivers - entire Oceans have been polluted.

Industry/ Factories burn millions of tonnes of fuel and when raw material is melted/ heated up, hundreds of toxic chemicals are released into the atmosphere. Industry kills Air.

Industrial Society has covered millions of square miles of land with cement and concrete. Industry kills Land.

When consumer goods are discarded/ thrown away in landfills it again leads to destruction of ecosystems.

When consumer goods are recycled, hundreds of toxic chemicals are released into air, water and land.

Consumer goods are sold/ marketed through a network of millions of kilometers of rail / road network and shipping routes which causes destruction of all ecosystems that come in the way.


"Growth Rate" - "Economy Rate" - "GDP"

These are figures of "Ecocide".
These are figures of "crimes against Nature".
These are figures of "destruction of Ecosystems".
These are figures of "Insanity, Abnormality and Criminality".



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